Bromley, South East London and Kent
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Alcove cupboard skimmed finished

Plastering over Artex

Plastering over Artex in Bromley

Swirls, stipple and combed patterns taken back to a flat ceiling, without sanding any of it.

Pricing

Written price after a look at the job

Who turns up

Family run, 20 years on the tools

On site

Dust sheeted, swept and cleared down daily

What we take on

Domestic and commercial

Artex is on a very large number of ceilings around here, because it was what you did to a ceiling from the sixties through to the nineties and it was cheap. Most people who ring about it have decided they want it gone and assume that means scraping it off. It almost never does.

There are two sensible routes and one that is dangerous. The sensible ones are skimming over the top where the pattern is shallow, and boarding over it where the pattern is heavy. The dangerous one is sanding or scraping it, which is the one thing that is never done on this job for a reason that has nothing to do with the finish.

The asbestos question, answered first

Textured coatings made before the mid eighties can contain white asbestos, and a lot of them do. Left alone and painted, it is not doing any harm, and it is specifically the act of sanding, scraping or dry cutting it that puts fibres into the air of the room you are standing in.

So none of that happens here. The texture is not sanded, it is not scraped and it is not dry cut. It is either skimmed over, which seals it under two coats of plaster, or boarded over, which seals it behind a board. If you want to know what is in it rather than work around it, a sample test is cheap and it is worth doing before any work starts, not after.

Alcove cupboard skimmed finished

Skimming straight over it

A shallow pattern that is firmly stuck takes a skim. The surface is sealed with a bonding agent so the plaster does not dry out too fast against it, then the high points of the pattern get knocked back wet rather than sanded, and two coats go over the lot.

It works on a fine stipple or a light swirl. It stops working when the pattern is deep, because the plaster needed to bury a heavy swirl is thicker than a skim is supposed to be, and thick plaster over a pattern cracks along the ridges as it shrinks. The test is simple: if you can get a fingernail into it, it is going to be boarded.

Bedroom PVA bonded walls ceiling prep

Overboarding a heavy pattern

Boarding over is faster than it sounds and it gives a better result on anything heavily textured. New plasterboard is fixed through the old ceiling into the joists, the joints are scrimmed, and it is skimmed as a normal ceiling. The artex is sealed in behind it and nobody has disturbed it.

The cost of it is height: the board plus the skim takes the ceiling down by around fifteen millimetres, which is nothing in most rooms and worth thinking about in a low one. Downlights and roses come down and are reset through the new board rather than being boarded around and left in a recess.

Bedroom stripped artex ceiling, before

Walls, and coving that was run into it

Artexed walls are less common than ceilings and they are treated the same way, except that walls get more light across them so the flatness matters more. A wall that was combed rather than stippled is usually a boarding job.

Where there is coving already, it often has artex run right up to it or over it. Boarding up to the coving leaves a visible step unless it is dealt with, so either the coving comes off and is replaced afterwards, or the board is stopped short and the gap is made good. Which one is right gets decided on the day, in front of you, rather than assumed in a price.

Bedroom stripped artex ceiling, before

When to get it looked at

  • A swirled or stippled ceiling you want flat
  • Artex that has been painted over several times
  • A ceiling being taken back to flat before downlights go in
  • Combed texture on a wall in a hallway or stairwell
  • Artex run up into old coving
  • A ceiling somebody has already started scraping
Bedroom PVA bonded walls ceiling prep

Plastering over Artex on site

Three rooms of his own work. Every photograph on this site is his, taken on his own jobs.

Alcove cupboard skimmed finished
Bedroom stripped artex ceiling, before
Bedroom PVA bonded walls ceiling prep

Google reviews

Our customers say it best.

A few words from the people we've worked for.

ChristopherGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Good honest business, we called SMB after we had a bad experience with previous contractors. ... The work is immaculate (we had our house skimmed), the detail, care and attention is spot on.”

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RosieGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Frank and Steve did a fantastic job on my hallway! Really professional team and their work is seamless. I was really impressed, and they even fixed my skirting board and put it back on for me, a very appreciated extra! Would highly recommend.”

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GeoffGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“They did a great job. I had an awkward hallway area and a large ceiling to skim. I thought they'd finished earlier in the day as it looked great to me then, but they went over the whole area to make sure that the finish was perfect.”

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PhilGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Excellent work! Scott plastered our living room including some tricky details around fireplace and bay window. Great finish looks really good, all the work was tidy and well communicated all done on time. Would highly recommend.”

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AndrewGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Frank completed a wall for me that needed plastering, he was on time, very polite and nothing seemed an issue. ... Although only a small job, kept my house tidy, even outside the house, cleaned up after he finished and done a perfect job, highly recommended from myself.”

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John, HayesGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Hi, Had the team in plastering for a week. What a joy. There were no problems they turned up on time everyday and very polite. Would recommend them to anyone. Thanks very much guys.”

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SuminGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“I don't often leave reviews, but Frank was so helpful and pleasant to work with that he deserves 5 stars. Very responsive and professional. He did a great job and left our place clean and tidy. Thanks again Frank!”

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FrancescaGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Frank very kindly stopped by to plaster a chipped wall. Perfectly done and really helpful and kind guy. 100% calling if I ever need any more plastering done!”

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JemmaGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Although we didn't require any work, Frank was extremely helpful and knowledgable on his visit to inspect our issue. He was prompt and on time and responded quickly.”

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StephenGoogle review
5 out of 5 stars

“Great job, work required was done at a high standard, thanks Scott.”

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Peter, W3Checkatrade reviewCheckatrade
5 out of 5 stars

“Very, very happy with Franks work finishing off kitchen walls after having been let down by a builder. It was a tricky job as the granite worktops ect had already been installed but I couldn't be happier with the result.”

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Simon, BR7Checkatrade reviewCheckatrade
5 out of 5 stars

awesome work, very helpful, would use again”

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Ben, SW6Checkatrade reviewCheckatrade
5 out of 5 stars

Excellent work, excellent comms

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Checkatrade customer, DA1Checkatrade reviewCheckatrade
5 out of 5 stars

“Really happy with the work. Great finish and very professional. Turned up on time, kept things tidy, and did a top-quality job. Would definitely recommend.”

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Checkatrade customerCheckatrade reviewCheckatrade
5 out of 5 stars

“Absolutely exceptional in every way, was a pleasure to be around. The job was flawless.”

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Checkatrade customerCheckatrade reviewCheckatrade
5 out of 5 stars

“very pleasant experience in communication and the level of service provided. tradesman was very polite. He came around for a diagnosis before outlining the job in details with cost and what needs doing.”

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Adam, Abbey WoodMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Just had Scott round, Arrived on time started straight away and just got on with the job. Pleasant at all times clean & tidy worker will definitely use again. Work looks good and he stuck to his price. Thanks Scott was was good to meet you.”

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Paul, GravesendMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Very professional, was very clear on what exactly will be done. Agreed a price and kept me update all the way through. Happy with the work completed and after care as well. Very helpful and highly recommended.”

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Lucie, OrpingtonMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Would highly recommend! Really lovely guys who did a fabulous job :) thanks so much for fitting us in!”

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Alexandra, GreenhitheMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

Amazing work. Great price and professional work done. Would recommend to anyone who asked.”

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MyBuilder customer, DartfordMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Excellent job. Explained the stages of plastering to be done and completed smoothly. Very friendly.”

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Nicole, DartfordMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Scott called me before booking a date to come and do work. He reasured me about somethings i was worried about. He come in time he said he would and helped me with another job as well. Very helpful and happy with service

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MyBuilder customer, OrpingtonMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Great job by Scott plastering the small room, he managed to sort out the uneven ceiling and walls. Will be using Scott again to sort out a couple of other rooms.”

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MyBuilder customer, GravesendMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Nice guy, thoroughly explained what needed doing and did the job quickly, well, and for a reasonable price. Would hire again.”

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MyBuilder customerMyBuilder reviewMyBuilder
5 out of 5 stars

“Nice team Prompt professional and will def use again

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Plastering over Artex across London

Bromley, South East London and Kent

Plastering over Artex: frequently asked questions

Does my artex contain asbestos?

If the house had it done before about the mid eighties, it might, and a lot did. A sample test is cheap and quick. Either way the work is the same here, because nothing gets sanded or scraped and the texture ends up sealed under plaster or behind board.

Can you just scrape it off?

No, and nobody should. Scraping and sanding a textured coating is exactly what releases fibres if there are any in it. Skimming over it or boarding over it both leave it sealed and undisturbed.

Will skimming hide a deep pattern?

Not reliably. Plaster thick enough to bury a heavy swirl shrinks as it sets and cracks along the ridges. If a fingernail goes into the pattern, the honest answer is to board it, and that is what gets priced.

How much height does boarding lose me?

About fifteen millimetres with the skim on it. In a normal room nobody notices. In a low ceilinged one it is worth measuring before deciding, and it gets measured at the estimate.

Plastering over Artex in London

Call Frank or send the job details and he will come and look.

Get in touch

Tell Frank what the walls are doing and he will come and look at them. The visit is free and the price comes after it, in writing.

Goes straight to Frank. Nothing is priced off a photograph, so the next step is a look at the job.

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